If the were real loose they could cause the tire to wobble and make you lose traction. I haven't bothered with them on my GT350 because it doesn't need the big camber numbers that the S197 did. A couple of questions. Camber problems usually show up as handling or tire wear problems. I was out from the town, else I would have survey other Tire shops for the adjustable camber bolt price. The front wagon struts add even more negative camber to the front than just lowering alone. Because suspension and steering components weaken after time, the camber on the vehicle can be compromised. The cam style bolts are less likely to be knocked out of adjustment from daily driving. We set wheel alignment to static settings. Do not use the upper control arm for Camber and Caster adjustments. Better avoid that shop next time. A bad lower control arm will have trouble suppressing the vibrations and motions of the vehicle. By continuing to browse our site you agree to our use of data and cookies. The cost for these screw may be less than RM5. ... After I replaced it all I had to do was get a camber bolt to adjust the angle a little and it is back to stock. Upper strut mount hole enlarged around the bolt, giving you bad camber. Camber bolts installed, now bad tire wear, drives bad. It is hard to say and really does depend on the car. Usually, all four wheels will feature some negative camber, and a vehicle will tend to pull to the side that has the most positive camber. The event is so happened I was in business trip around Rawang, Selangor. I cannot believe I have put over 10k miles on Jolie inside on 5 months, but the car is so much fun to drive, hard to not find reasons to hop in and go somewhere. A 2” level shouldn’t max your camber. Mar 15, 2018 #2. For anything more than this, you’re going to need adjustable control arms. How do I know my tire camber? The Camber bolt is undersized, lets say the original is a 15mm, than the cam bolt is 13mm and the lobe adds another 2mm. Cutting, heating, or even using engineered lowering coil springs will cause negative camber every time and you need to have the ability to adjust the camber enough to offset this. This because I went to Singapore for job after that, and my parent on and off use my car for short driving…. 1) Bolt got over torqued and stretched by the person doing the alignment 2) The part failed for some reason. Remove each control arm and inspect for bushing wear and also see if the bolts sheared or tore into the subframe. I hope to see you here again, CKS , Your email address will not be published. BMR has sold 5,456 sets of these exact same camber bolts since 2006. Stock suspensions rely on camber bolts, eccentric washer bolts, turn-buckle joints or shim adjustments. A little bit of negative camber is not that bad for the average vehicle, if it's something you really want. The intensity of the vibrations will increase as you step on the accelerator pedal to go faster. Now I has completed replaced the tyres to brand new Michelin XM2. The alignment cam bolt allows you to modify the camber angle of your vehicle. Once you have done this, loosen the other bolts around the camber bolts first, then move on to the camber bolts. However you can move the knucle horizontally nside or outside because there is … Inner front tire wear and camber & different blues Hello all.. SPC Performance parts and tools have been engineered SPC Performance parts and tools have been engineered to give suspensions a true advantage with optimal tracking and handling in professional and enthusiast chassis set-ups. They are also the same camber bolts that the owner of BMR runs on his NMRA Mustang and no failures. Upper strut mount bolt worn out will give you bad camber. The other possability is the bearings. Hi CKS, Search using model number, interchange number, part name or number, vehicle year/make/model, etc. Mar 15, 2018 #2. Camber: When you lower a truck you cause negative camber.When you lift a truck you cause positive camber. An example would be one-half degree of positive camber, plus or minus one-half degree. The staff told me that my camber bolts required to replace after they tried to alignment my both front wheels but failed. Go with whichever costs less. SPC is constantly looking to improve our products. Lately I experienced something unusual on my ride, my Michelin tires have wear out on one of the tire’s shoulder as below: From the above image, the wear or damage on the tire clearly indicate that my Toyota Vios suspensions alignment are misaligned. My other ride has a Subaru engine, is rear wheel drive, has 25mm ground clearance and pulls 2 g around corners! We use data about you for a number of purposes explained in the links below. The camber bolts do not change things enough to put you in a positive camber situation. NOTE: When the lower control arm pivot bolts are loosened the lower control arm will normally go outwards automatically with the weight of … Camber may need to be adjusted if your usage scenario demands better cornering performance. For example, if the front wheels are at -0.5° L and R ±0.0°, the vehicle would … Excessive toe out will wear the inside edge, excess toe in will wear the outside edge, and obviously, negative camber can wear the inside edge and positive camber can wear the outside edge. They indicate the OEM camber bolts unable to make adjustment to correct back the alignment setting of the car, thus they suggest to replace the adjustable camber bolt for me. They can also return your angle to factory specification if your suspension has been damaged or parts have been replaced. Don’t forget to give us a “Like” at bottom post and share to us your experience too . Where do these bolts go, how do I adjust the camber, do I really need these and if I do which of the bolts do I even need? Silly question but the camber bolts on the front do go in the top where it connects to the knuckle? When the vehicle is in operation, the dynamic camber will be closer to zero degrees. So when the lobe/cam is pointing to the top, verticly you fill the 15mm hole in the knuckle. the condition tyre lasted another 2 years LOL.. I used the FoMoCo ones on my S197 together with camber plates to get over 3 degrees of front camber. Other things Ive read is the strut being bad, the lower strut bar shifting in its bearings, or the frame being bent which I hope didnt happen. A camber bolt can be a useful addition to your front- and rear-wheel assemblies. NOTE: Camber and caster adjustments must be made at the lower control arm. Imagine the rip off these tyre shops is making every time they ask a customer to replace them. If the camber adjustment brackets and bolts are in decent condition, you shouldn’t need to replace them. Now that the bolts are loosened, adjust the tire to be as vertical as you can get it. Adjustable camber bolt has more flexibility to align the wheel to the right angle and position. If you have impacted a curb, a large pothole, or have had an accident, there is a good chance your tire camber is affected. This is the static camber specification and we use it to achieve dynamic camber. By cobase in forum Suspension/Brakes/Drivetrain, By jrod13 in forum Suspension/Brakes/Drivetrain, By txdproject in forum Suspension/Brakes/Drivetrain, By XDGT03 in forum Suspension/Brakes/Drivetrain. I went to one of the tire shop known as Toyo Tyre, in Rawang. Moog is just as good as ACDelco IMO. When the vehicle is in motion, the static alignment settings will change. Below image is the adjustable camber bolt: Below is the location where the adjustable camber bolt is installed: The 2 set of adjustable camber bolts cost me RM120 from the shop: After they replaced the adjustable camber bolt to my Toyota Vios, they were able to realign my wheels to correct position: Now I can drive my car with confident without worry my tire thread wear unevenly again. As your car ages, the camber bolt can become misaligned. We use cookies to improve your experience on this website and so that ads you see online can be tailored to your online browsing interests. No I sure didn't I'll go … It’s that simple, and this is why the way you lower is so important. Camber bolts help adjust the camber alignment on your vehicle's tires. They indicate the OEM camber bolts unable to make adjustment to correct back the alignment setting of the car, thus they suggest to replace the adjustable camber bolt for me. Thi… Hahaahaa… I am too late, their earned my money . Required fields are marked *. I have an issue it seems with front inner tire wear. They can be used for adding or reducing the angle to customize your vehicle's handling. How to install camber kits. Make sure you save loosening the camber bolts until last. You never really want to go much beyond 1°, however. If you are not too sure how the camber bolt affecting the tire setting, below image able to explain well: Technical, chamber bolts are use to hold the upper control arm to the knuckle assembly on wheel. Camber Plates: Allow 2° to 3° of camber settings Camber Bolts: Allow up to 1.5° of adjustment. First of all, I recommend aftermarket camber bolts that are "cam" style vs. Chrysler's thin bolts. Yea, I have to agree with you. Take you car to another shop, have the tie rod ends replaced, and a new alignment. Feb 24, 2012 #7 TexasBlownV8 Formerly TexasBlownV6 Your email address will not be published. So we have almost 11,000 camber bolts sold and in service. If you replace the brackets and bolts… The best thing to do is start removing parts and do a full inspection. Discussion Starter • #3 • Mar 19, 2009. Camber is measured in degrees when performing an alignment. Step 2--Adjust the Tire. I have been running camber bolts for like 5 years now with no issues and they allowed me to set camber to my specs just fine. The staff told me that my camber bolts required to replace after they tried to alignment my both front wheels but failed. When to Adjust Camber Camber problems usually show up as handling or tire wear problems. thanks for drop by and comment to us. Excessive negative camber or positive camber will wear your tires unevenly, and cause excess strain on your suspension components. B. blue2turbo Member. Then a combination of the two can cause super accelerated wear, like excess negative camber combined with toe out, will really wear an inside edge in a hurry. Type what you're looking for and we will do our best to find it! You will feel more vibrations coming from your steering wheel when this happens. Installing the camber bolt, which has a small tab specialty part on the washer, is … They are only a few bucks, so not a bad idea. This may require the assistance of another person. What is the Function of Adjustable Camber Bolt on a Car? Learn how to install camber bolts so you can adjust the camber on your car or truck. Hai, your tyre condition same as mine, after you repair the RM120 things, the tyre you didnt replace new ? than how long u keep using the tyre ? You have to move both bolts around until both angles are correct, then you have to do the same thing on the other wheel, and both camber and caster have to be nearly equal to that on the first wheel. Tire camber is hard to see with the naked eye. Ford themselves sell camber bolts for Mustangs. To be honest, paying rm120 for them is too expensive. Also check the subframe for bends. How far is the good side from being maxed? Some vehicles come with camber bolts already in place as 1 of the 2 strut bolts. That's where I have mine, one in each side. Camber nuts is use to cheat customer without car knowledge and earn big money hehehe. ... 17 Posts . did not read the thread...but i will tell you off the bat....YOU DO NOT NEED CAMBER BOLTS!!! The wagon struts are the same in the rear as the sedan, and you may need camber bolts depending on how much negative camber you end up with. Usually, all four wheels will feature some negative camber, and a vehicle will tend to pull to the side that has the most positive camber. Usually tyre shops sell these camber bolts at a highly inflated price. Messages 392 Likes 98 Location Chesapeake. They provide specifications for static camber in a range of degrees. From reading and looking at pictures it looks like the cam ( or camber bolt ) is the top bolt of the two that connect to the strut. I am referring to strut to knuckle mount. 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